Can anyone that supports Sanders explain why they support him? He's old, weak, and senile. Not to mention his proposals are impossible to make into a reality.
Can anyone that supports Sanders explain why they support him? He's old, weak,...
@MPmaster
He's old, weak, and senile. Not to mention his proposals are impossible to make into a reality.
Haha,just like Trump
@MPmaster
his proposals are impossible to make into a reality
So, just like Trump's?
Not to mention his proposals are impossible to make into a reality.
Somehow those "impossible" proposals have been implemented in Finland, Germany, Sweden, Norway, Denmark etc.
they want free stuff, and they are willing too spend lots of money to get it.
(yes, that is liberal logic in a nutshell)
@MPmaster
oi m8, the NHS costs the government half as much per head as the american healthcare system costs the american government per head
@girlDog
@Burnblaze
I'm not talking about Trump. I'm talking about Bernie. Could you stay on topic?
@MPmaster
Not to mention his proposals are impossible to make into a reality.
Yet somehow Canada has Single Payer healthcare.
...and Germany has free public college.
How can America be "The Greatest Country on Earth" if they can't have the same kind of programs other developed nations have? Why are they considered "impossible"?
Because he is not Shillary? I mean, I'm not supporting him but Shillary is so much worse that I can understand anybody who gives money to the unkempt dodderer.
@girlDog
Quick question favela monkey, which of trumps proposals is impossible?
@lostmypassword
Allocating tax money to fix things we actually need in this country is not "free stuff." You might as well think we don't need our military, libraries, police, education, etc.
Sweden on the verge of collapse
other countries have extremely favorable resource:population ratios and/or are extremely homogeneous compared to the USA
@MPmaster
You have less than 6 million people in your cuntry. I wonder why it works.
@MPmaster
Because we are low population, and had people that were willing to work.
Look at Sweden, they are about to collapse, becaues this system can not handle to many leeches, which is exactly what Swedes are bringing in en masse.
People tend to choose the sweet fantasy over the bitter reality. However, the fantasies are lies and as such they are ephemeral. In time, they will all understand.
@Evil_kitten
But that's your answer. He promises impossible things that people want to hear, and promises they will be free/other people will pay for them.
It's the political equivalent of throwing glitter in the air and saying "It's magic, I ain't gotta explain shit"
However, it seems Dems are less willing to believe it than Republicans, since Bernie is losing and Trump is winning.
Free college, no tpp, not the establishment, and is not hillary. Trump is my second favorite
@MPmaster
Physical strength
presidential quality
yeah ok bud, at least you've got time to come up with better bait
Nigga I'm Canadian. I have single Payer healthcare. I know how it's paid. It ain't "free". I pay for it. We all do.
And it's way better than what you have. I don't have to worry about being bankrupted by having cancer. Or having to stick with a shitty job because it's the only way I'll avoid being bankrupted by having cancer.
@MPmaster
Old
Doesn't matter because he's not as
Weak
As people used to be at his age.
Senile
Nice ad hominem.
His proposals are not at all impossible either. Though economists are split on whether or not his plan would work out exactly like he intends, the number of them that support those plans is enough to consider looking into them.
And yes, I'm aware that this thread is bait, as most threads are. May as well apply reason anyway.
@takes2long
building a fucking wall
blocking the entrance of muslims in the us
kicking more than 11 million people out.(illegal immigrants)
Open your eyes jap
@Ignoramus
Trump & Clinton will be in their mid 70s when their first term is up.
1) I have a job
or
2) I have no job
2b) I'm voting for Bernie
thinking weakness in the OP context has anything to do with muscles
He let his own rally be taken over by a pair of BLM chimps.
He has no presence. No power. All he can do is promise pizza and more recess, more pizza and more recess.
Hillary is more of a man than Bernie.
Sanders is a madman! Free college? Where's the money? At least trump will charge mexico for all the reduced taxes and the wall (makes sense... lol).
A social democrat and an ultra liberal faggot go into a bar....
@hairygrape
Probably because the U.S is huge compared to Germany. And Canada's population is packed on the northern border. More people, more problems.
@idontknow
healthy
Had a hernia operation a few months ago. How do you randomly get a hernia? It's not like he lifts.
went to his rally in Dallas yesterday even tho im voting for trump.
- he wants 30k a year for old people on social security
- he wants no interest on student loans
- higher pay for teachers
- no 1% shills running for president
- 15$ min wage
- real "free" healthcare
- free college
i was asked to help the cause by making calls and knocking on doors, i simply asked how much they pay and the leader became upset that i care about money.
stupid socialists
they have no idea how economics work and i think they dont understand simple things like supply and demand
every policy is a broken window fallacy
@Sir_Gallonhead
Better than what we have
People literally die waiting for treatment
America has the best cancer treatment in the world
A FUCKING LEAF
@askme
Sure, if being a man means commiting treason against your country and then getting away with it
@ZeroReborn
It is not about physical strength. Bernie is as submissive as you can possibly get. He couldn't even stand up for himself against two sheboons, how could he possibly stand up for the country?
@askme
After what Hillary did in SC this week, right before the voting, there's no way this can't slowly slide out from under her.
It doesn't suddenly become impossible with more people.
35 million or 350 million. It doesn't matter. It'd work for both. Because everyone would pay into it.
Libs are supporting Bernie because he cant win. They can continue their whole smug self righteous "I voted Sanders" every time anything bad happens in the next 4 years. The hipster image helping option is Sanders.
@MPmaster
America protects those countries. What's the military in Germany? Like, five guys with iron pipes?
@BlogWobbles
All that shit will be incredible easy to accomplish, you favelamonkey.
@SniperGod
His proposals are not at all impossible either.
Actually they are because they won't leave the senate floor.
He's not out of the game yet! Some lady resigned from the DNC and endorsed him and this changes everything for some reason.
To sum it all up- he isn't Hillary
@RavySnake
also, they didn't have nigger problems until recently
@Methshot
- he wants 30k a year for old people on social security
- he wants no interest on student loans
- higher pay for teachers
- no 1% shills running for president
These all sound good and I support them
- real "free" healthcare
- free college
These sound good, but there's no such thing as "free"
@BlogWobbles
building a fucking wall
It's been done so many times in history and with less resources than we have.
blocking the entrance of muslims in the us
Pretty easy since you can spot a fucking muslim from 50 feet away, usually because they're always dressed for the desert.
kicking more than 11 million people out.(illegal immigrants)
Easy. Set up a tip line with rewards.
Or, you know, check every Mexican for their papers.
They'll be the new jew, but instead of a gold star they have to wear sombreros.
@Ignoramus
I hope you are right.
Cause all I see is Trump getting elected and failing as president,making the us get more and more to the left
Why do I support Sanders? It's not because I think he'll actually get much of what he says done; I support what he WON'T do. Shillary is a neoconservative when it comes to foreign policy, and a Wall St. Manchurian candidate when it comes to the economy. Bernie isn't interested in foreign policy, which I find to be a VIRTUE, since we have a tendency to fuck up things post-911. He also won't make free trade pacts, and he won't cut tax rates further than they already are.
@MPmaster
All of which have suffered for it
http://www.thenewamerican.com/world-news/europe/item/21463-debunking-the-myth-of-socialist-success-in-scandinavia
Be Bernie Sanders
Make at least $125,000 / year for 25 years
Make $175,000 for the past 10 years
Still only have a networth of $300,000
top fucking kek. The man can budget, but he can sure overspend.
@MPmaster
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-j7fymd5BM
You mean how every republican candidate ever talks about "rebuilding the military" despite that being a huge expense?
@hairygrape
Germany's bank is getting cucked right now and pic related for canada.
How?
He'll make it okay to hate illegals and muslims.
The silent majority of this country already does, they just need a reason to be active about it.
The president saying "It's okay," is such a reason.
It's not like black people like Muslims or illegals, either.
@MPmaster
But here they are paid by all taxpayers, not just by "Wall Street speculators" and bankers, like Bernie often seems to propose.
but if america isnt killing brown people where will the next COD game be set????
Didn't an 18 year old die recently simply because she couldn't find a bed in one of your hospitals?
@TurtleCat
Yo should actually look at Sander's foreign policy record
Tldr
He voted for every single war on his watch except the Iraq war.
Which if you follow his previous actions(as well as voting to fund it consistently) regarding Iraq under Clinton it becomes clear this one vote against the war was an anti Bush vote not an anti war vote just like many other Democrat votes.
@MPmaster
he's the only who cares about climate change, which, if we dont reverse it, will destroy civilization
@Sir_Gallonhead
1.3 million in 3 months
10 people every minute assuming the agents never sleep.
Sounds totally true to me senpai.
@hairygrape
Germany has free public college.
You don't even know how the university system works here do you.
limited slots free
some reserved for foreigners from 3rd world
simply waiting a year(s) due to shit test scores puts you ahead of others in placement
after university almost always has to do an unpaid apprenticeship for 3 years before you even get paid
one day you decide you dont like your job
you cant get another one without taking another 3 years of an unpaid apprenticeship
This even applies for travel agents. So yeah, please, go ahead and talk about how great "Free" education is you faggot.
I'm having fun with this, come to join me anona
Trump is white ISIS
@Illusionz
mfw some user a while back did the math to replace all fossil fuels with solar/wind and the low estimate was 6 quadrillion dollars
The world gross product is around 30 trillion a year
'Free stuff'
'Dude weed lmao'
Mostly it's because he spews feelgood rhetoric.
@Bidwell
Please elaborate.
We don't know much about all the "free" benefits europoors get.
Our liberal just point to you and say "look! they can do it for free!"
@Carnalpleasure
This isn't stormfront, your holocaust denial isn't welcome here.
None of his economic proposals will pass.
The reason I support him is because he's the only one in the race not sucking NSA, CIA, or FBI cock. Also, he seems to be against expanding employment visas, while Trump goes on and on about his hardline stance on giving jobs to Americans while actually giving preferential treatment to work visas or straight up outsourcing his manufacturing.
@PackManBrainlure
lol silly user
bernie is going to make it free so it doesn't cost anything :^)
@Snarelure
Everything is designed to scale!
This is how you separate the retards from the intelligent people.
@Stark_Naked
I understand everyone pays for it and that nothing is free, in reality it's as much as ever but it's split between everyone and it's much cheaper for each person
@Methnerd
it's split between everyone and it's much cheaper for each person
so basically, economic slavery
@Sir_Gallonhead
Over 400 seats in Congress are up this year. In a theoretical situation where he wins, enough new voters would have been stirred up that a lot of those seats would change in his favor.
I think that's a pretty strong way of putting it especially when that means a lot of other countries work that way
@5mileys
Honestly, that does matter. It means that at least one person worth something to the DNC wants change. Hopefully some of her colleagues will follow suit.
Well you really don't get to choose your university. You go to the one you were selected to go to if thats the program you want to do. Then from there everyone in the country (and Europe) compete for slots available. Once slots fill you, you wait til next year. You get in based on your test scores, and how long you've been waiting to get in.
This is all dependant on if you weren't a retard in high school. This part I agree with. You put the retards in the slow lane, and the smart people in the fast lane. The slow people go towards trades if they are smart. If you do test up to a higher level, you have to repeat that year as well.
unpaid apprenticeship afterwards
cheap fucking faggots think since you have "zero experience" you can get paid nothing for three years while you learn exactly what to do. Three years on-the-job training.
Trump licenses his name for use by another company
company makes its shit in Mexico because the USA cant compete right in manufacturing
I'm not sure why leftwing retards think this is BTFO of Trump. It literally proves his point.
how do you survive?
-Live at home
-Gibs me dat from parents
inb4 work shitty part time job user
Yeah, those are taken up by cheap labor from the newly added EU countries
@Sir_Gallonhead
no interest on student loans
This would never happen, nor should it. $20,000 right now is not worth $20,000 in four years. Interest has to be paid on any loan if only for the investor (the party giving the loan) to make up their losses. honestly, if they could earn more simply by putting the money in the bank for those years with 0.01% interest, then they're NOT investing that money into loans
Having no interest paid on loans is more examples that Bernie knows nothing of economics.
@MPmaster
Not to mention his proposals are impossible to make into a reality.
And Trump's proposals like building a wall and making Mexico pay for it is possible?
What exactly is impossible about Sanders' policies?
@Fried_Sushi
The American system is different, but not better.
Chinks and poos are given preferential treatment. If you want any hope of a job, you better be working an internship your full final year of college plus have a part time job or you won't have sufficient experience by the time you graduate. Plus you'll be about $50000-100000 in debt and get a minimum wage job once you graduate, if you're lucky.
Fortunately the government paid for my shit entirely, but most of my other STEM bros got shafted hard. The guys who are doing okay are there through sheer nepotism.
@MPmaster
He comes off as nice (whatever), he's retardedly progressive (because, you know, the country works off social fanaticism and nothing else), he voted against war once (nevermind everytime he voted for it), he promises to give you free stuff (without addressing why said free stuff is so fucking expensive to begin with), he isn't demonized by the media (which is the equivalent of doing drugs with the cool kids.) And climate change causes terrorism. That's an actual platform for Bernie.
@MPmaster
I support him for a number of reasons
1. He'll never be able to apply his plan once elected.
2. Once he fails, disillusioned leftists will have take a second look into their ideology
3.He's inadvertently spreading the ideal of original communism
I.e. individual rights maintained by class consciousness and general armament of the people.
4.the result will be many leftist will both move towards the right and many will move towards communist thought as opposed to Sanders toothless socialism
In short I want a resurgence of fanatatical
Classism, nationalism, and rigged individuality.
@Methshot
higher pay for teachers
real "free" healthcare
these are the only things i agree with, it works pretty well for yurope even before the foriegn hordes invaded.
as for:
no 1% shills running for president
dunno if this means he'll get rid of first past the post voting system, but if it does i'd support it.
Despite the fact that I don't agree with the wall, it's actually completely possible. If you listened to the man, he says that Mexico would pay for it by the US cutting the foreign aid they recieve and putting it into building the wall until it is finished. This is surprisingly reasonable.
Taxing households making $250,000/yr or more at 90% such that they have to survive off of $25,000 meanwhile increasing minimum wage such that it makes closer about $30,000 year, however is entirely asinine
@Fuzzy_Logic
This would never happen, nor should it. $20,000 right now is not worth $20,000 in four years.
That's true, inflation will always keep devaluing money.
Having no interest paid on loans is more examples that Bernie knows nothing of economics.
This may be true, but his position isn't necessarily a bad one. Here, we can actually blame the jews and banks because they institute the practice of usuery (charging monetary interest on loans).
Why is this bad and the root of so many problems?
Suppose you have $100 and you deposit it to the bank. The bank loans out $90 of your $100 to some beaner and charges a 10% interest rate. Suddenly, there is $190 in circulation, but $199 in liabilities. But that's not all. The beaner spends the $90 buying burritos from the burrito monger and the burrito monger deposits that $90 into his bank. The bank can then again loan out $80 of that $90, again with a 10% interest rate. now there is a total of $270 in circulation but $287 in liabilities.
This is the problem with fiat money and not being on the gold standard.
We get rid of the fed, get back on the gold standard (which is what china and india may be doing in the future, and what gadaffi was about to do in africa), and we solve many, many problems.
@MPmaster
I am not voting for him due to his stance on guns and minimum wage. Everything else is a good idea though.
@Nude_Bikergirl
Set up a tip line with rewards.
You know this is an free pass for liberals to compare him to hitler and it will never pass congress.
@Spamalot
we get back to he gold standard
Agreed.. but this isn't what Bernie's pulling for, is it? (If so, please prove it!)
Under the system that we're running on, Bernie's plans are just too unrealistic. Compare this to building a wall with a laid out plan on howvto afford it? And interestingly we find out who's the more sane one running for president
@MPmaster
Not to mention his proposals are impossible to make into a reality.
Eh, I don't really mind. All the GOP tax plans are fucking insane, but people still support those candidates for other reasons, correct? The same with Sanders. I don't count on him passing a single thing with a Republican Congress, I count on him
A) Not getting us into a fucking war. He is the one candidate who is not bat-shit crazy on foreign policy. He understands that war is sometimes necessary, he voted for NATO bombing and Afghanistan, but he's hardly a hawk. All of the other GOP candidates are either "muh Israel", "muh carpet-bombing" (Which is retarded when fighting an ideological enemy), or "muh military spending". Bernie is the one who relatively stands against the Military Industrial Complex. And as commander-in-chief, that's the one real thing he can exercise regardless of Congress.
B) He has the general abstract right idea. His policies on capital gains tax (effective 70%) are retarded, his ideas on free college are deluded, and his fantasy that nationalizing healthcare will magically lower the cost of healthcare is just that, a fantasy. But I don't count on him passing any of these policies outright. He will move rightward like Obama did, but he's started out far enough left that it'll make him a solid center-left candidate in my opinion.
C) He's a social democrat who markets himself with this "revolution" shtick, not an actual "muh centralized government socialist". I can rest easy at night.
D) He realizes political money matters a whole damn lot. He's not a "cuck" or whatever meme you people use to describe people who are sell-outs when it comes to the power of the banking system over our political process.
desu, I'd prefer Elizabeth "Middle Class Champion" Warren over Bernie "Sandinista" Sanders, but he'll do for a primary protest vote. It'll end up as Trump vs. Hillary in the end anyways. I'm going with the liar over the reality TV star with no relevant experience.
@StrangeWizard
Oh, and he's not a "cuck" for the Surveillance State and NSA. Literally the only candidate at this point willing to stand against them.
@Raving_Cute
I don't quite get your meme. Yeah Hillary is a war-mongering Neocon with a spray-paint of blue progressivism on domestic policy. What's your point here?
@Nude_Bikergirl
@GoogleCat
You trumpfags are really fucking dumb, it isn't about if the wall CAN be made, it's about if the bill to build it will pass congress and the house of representatives, which it definitely wont.
@Fried_Sushi
Just get a HiWi spot during uni times and you will be fine after completing uni either by the company taking you or at least giving you a
I ACTUALLY WORKED FOR 3 YEARS IN A COMPANY
attest which everybody and their mom seems to be expecting from university graduates.
All you need to know.
@MPmaster
legal pot, shutting down for profit prisons, universal healthcare. I make six figures and the thought of something medical coming up out of the blue and bankrupting me despite the fact I have good health insurance is asinine.
@CodeBuns
it's about if the bill to build it will pass congress and the house of representatives
the bill has already passed
the issue is who is funding it, the states or the federal gov
@CodeBuns
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secure_Fence_Act_of_2006
In short, Congress failed to continue to fund the project past the initial $1.2 billion procured
@Burnblaze
@Illusionz
@Evil_kitten
I admit my loss and in the future will only reply to a subject if i know sufficiently about it.
Can anyone that supports Donald explain why they support him? He's old, weak, and senile. Not to mention his proposals are impossible to make into a reality.
@MPmaster
You want to hear something funny OP?
I just been to Burlington and i've never seen so many beggars and people on benefits in such a small population.
They locally help the poor, way more than every other place i've been and it do the opposite effect.
Instead of trying to be useful to society they live their day will 3 meals and a place to sleep.
Why would they work?
Life is beautiful for a lazy person in Vermont.
@iluvmen
@Deadlyinx
@Ignoramus
Damn i wish Sheeky Forums would be more like this...
@Sir_Gallonhead
You obviously don't have the full scope of what's wrong with our economy and jobs market.
Too many of those people are struggling to find jobs to begin with. It's good to see that we're able to stop their lives from being absolute shit just because the industries keep shipping the jobs out overseas, but it's definitely not a permanent solution.
@Evil_kitten
I didn't see it that way, I must agree that I don't know about employment in the US.
@MPmaster
I hate Hillary Clinton because she's against abortion rights and supports gun control.
I hate Trump because he supports varying degrees of censorship, lies and insults others in order to garner support, scares foreign big wigs, and wants to put an emphasis on border control.
I hate Ted Cruz because he's against gay marriage and is against using offshore work for economic gain.
I hate Marco Rubio because he's also anti-abortion rights, thinks increasing minimum wage is a bad idea, and supports Common Core in some manner.
Bernie Sanders is the only person who's policies I don't disagree with and don't have any problems with. I don't mind the idea of paying higher taxes if it makes peoples' lives better and/or makes a more well educated country. I like how he's not anti drugs and supports LGBTQ groups. He is in general a really kind and supportive person of others. Its that that makes me like him and everythign thing else that makes me dislike all the other candidates. What more can I say?
@MPmaster
They said space travel was impossible. Then some fat burgers put a flag on the moon and a cellphone on wheels on Mars. You mean fat burgers can't solve poverty?
@Ignoramus
I don't know about employment in the US
It doesn't exist. That's an exaggerated if accurate way to put it. Jobs in the US are incredibly difficult to get. Unless you wanna work at McDonald's whose work hours change every week to where its impossible to get a second job, you're not going to easily find a job and in general job hunting is about who gets lucky.