Does being an Atheist make you more intelligent?
Does being an Atheist make you more intelligent?
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Yes.
Let's say that being an atheist may be correlated with being an intelligent person.
Yes but only if you wear a fedora + don't shave
@SomethingNew
no,
but being intelligent increases your chances of being an atheist
Yes, yes it does.
Religious belief - superstition - is a sign of mental retardation.
@Stupidasole
being unintelligent does increase your chances of being religious
I think that atheism is a more rational and intellitent way to view the world, however i do not think that being religious makes you stupid. Religion is something that is afflicted on you while you are growing up and it becomes kind of the same as brainwashing, but i do think atheists are more intelligent because they view the world in a realistic and non-fiction way
@farquit
Religion is something that is afflicted on you while you are growing up
100% this
No intelligent, well informed person can be anything but an atheist.
@TurtleCat
This. Intelligence is linked with reason and understanding. Reason suggests that all the evidence from critical study points towards there not being a divine being that created all the universe. Science had demonstrated time and again that the universe was created in a big bang event. What happened before that and the cause we do not fully understand yet. The same as ancient people did not understand the world was round and orbited the sun. We will get there one day but it won't be because we blindly believed in a book written by men who used it to subjugate and control.
@SomethingNew
Judging by my encounters with religious people and my stupid ass family yes it does.
Statistically speaking being an atheists are more intelligent, however, if you're one of the people that thinks that the atheism makes you more intelligent then you likely aren't.
No
I know tons of stupid fucking Atheists
And quite a few brilliant fucking Christians.
Like Time magazine brilliant
Religious beliefs (when believed by conscious choice and not blind faith) hold no bearings on the intelligence of another person
Most 'I'm super smart atheist' are just edgy faggots trying to stand out or be identified by something that they deem important and more than ordinary.
Being an atheist 100 years ago I would say would be a mark of intelligence but today people fuck stuffed ponies being an atheist is just another little quirk someone puts on their Faggotbook bio
@SomethingNew
No, Because I've meet complete retards that atheist, and geniuses that religious. and vice versa.
Being an atheist doesn't make you intelligent, but intelligent people tend to be atheists.
Yes it does. Sorry but if you're Christian your doomed to be an idiot.
@SomethingNew
we been through this 1000 times before
other way around.
im in mensa. this was asked on the group facebook. same conclusion.
most of them were atheist. aside from the one wierd old lady who described herself as a modern day pagan.
but imo. religous people are generally more well adjusted. if a bit wierd on the outside
@SomethingNew
no, obviously not.
A dumb person won't suddenly get more brain power the day they wake up and adopt a new set of ideas/way of thinking
No, but being an atheist/agnostic does make you freer to develop yourself.
@SomethingNew
richard dawkins is probably more intelligent than any one arguing here, but it has nothing to do the atheism, i assure you. so stop
@SomethingNew
Yes. Marginally. You'd have adopted a correct position on one one issue.
@eGremlin
what about: stop making other faggots look bad by forcing your porn on random people?
do you run around with your faggy furry shit IRL and then hijack some conversation and keep shoving shitty cartoon porn in their faces until they go somewhere else to talk?
You are the reason people hate faggots
Pretty much this.
Today anyone can be an Atheist and recite science facts they saw while watching pop sci shit like Cosmos and claim they are super intelligent.
It doesn't make you smart. In fact I would it just make you immature.
@DeathDog
@Fried_Sushi
This is Sheeky Forums.
Get the fuck out and back to tumblr pussy.
Babies are Agnostic. A baby doesn't think to itself 'THERE IS NO GOD'.
@likme
It's true though despite my shitty slang speak and use of the word like.
Professors and lawyers, and elected officials. All brilliant. All Christian.
@Gigastrength
Time magazine brilliant? The phrase itself reeks of stupidity. But thanks for the laugh.
@TreeEater
This is a valid argument. Since atheism is a lack of theistic belief, it is the default state for children who have yet to be indoctrinated. So the average atheist is somewhere between a baby with an undeveloped brain and a biology professor.
Correlation is not equal to causation.
@SomethingNew
Not one intelligent person believes in the Bible, not even priests. But..... that has nothing to do with the existence of God. The Bible is all wrong but there is someone or something that created the whole existence of the universe and its laws and can not intervene to change them. That, for me, is God.
@lostmypassword
aw are your feelings hurt because people dislike you based on your furry preferences? cry in your pillow go back to the furry site you came from and stop pirating anime
There's many points to being non-religious and creation isn't the only one.
Not every atheist has 100% certainty or belief in the big bang (or in any other specific thing).
The best thing about the critical thinking that leads most to atheism is also the worst. They all see the world in their own way and that can drive people apart.
The ONE thing religion can have is that it can drive people together and keep them calm and controlled under one umbrella of, most likely, lies. Sadly (or not) that use for religion is being surpassed by the "global society with global rules" we get closer to by the day.
A world where all "modern" religions go the way of the "haha clearly fake fairy tale stuff" (think Norse, Greek, pre-Christian Roman, Egyptian, etc) may be just a few hundred years away.
@eGremlin
"Agnostics" are atheists that don't want to offend anyone. Being an atheist litterally means that you do not believe in God. Nothing more, nothing less.
@SomethingNew
No. There are tons of stupid atheists and tons of brilliant theists, just like there are tons of brilliant atheists and tons of stupid theists. Historically most people that made important scientific discoveries believed in some sort of deity.
Religion, or lack of religion, is a core human trait. Some people prefer to believe in a higher power, some people refuse to believe in such a thing. But it has nothing to do with your intelligence. The only thing it really says about a person is how they prefer to cope with existential issues.
@w8t4u
i think he means those who only regurgitate what they heart and go no further. i could be wroing, otherwise, yes it sounds pretty stupid. giving him the benefit of the doubt
@Soft_member
I know a guy who was mentioned in Time magazine for mathematics
Fucking a man
@RumChicken
oh, now gay shit? don't you have anything you drew? maybe we can team up
No. But reciting facts mindlessly and trying to impress people with your 'high intelligence' and how you claim there is no God is though.
@CodeBuns
not true
AGNOSTICS don't deny the existence of a higher power, they don't believe it either
fuck offending anyone
@DeathDog
do you run around with your faggy furry shit IRL
Your analogy is garbage. Nobody is shoving these pictures in your face. You are opening the thumbnails to look at them.
Do you project your questioned sexuality on others in real life?
Er.. I think you need to read a dictionary lol. Why would an Agnostic be afraid to offend someone?
@LuckyDusty
only to chicks i like, but you know... thaty's normal. rthis shit makes no sense
@Ignoramus
Some people prefer to believe in a higher power, some people refuse to believe in such a thing. But it has nothing to do with your intelligence. The only thing it really says about a person is how they prefer to cope with existential issues.
underrated post.
atheists are autistic faggots, being one makes you a fucking moron not more intelligent
keep crying your salty tears OP, posting this shit over and over proves you are unloved and stupid and when you die the most faggot of deaths you'll get the afterlife you fucking deserve: to be wiped from existence entirely, you fucking shitbag
@GoogleCat
and elected officials
This isn't because of "brilliance", it's because of systemic religious discrimination.
Also what you are saying is anecdotal. To actually analyze the correlation with religiosity and intelligence, you would have to do some research.
No. Being Agnostic is the only logical and rational approach.
Theist = le sky daddy
Atheist = le rebellious edgelord
@Evilember
@Sharpcharm
http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/atheism
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/atheist
How does being objectively wrong feel? Agnostic just means you're a pussy with no values.
@LuckyDusty
entering a discussion and forcing a new topic is shoving it in my face, I did not enter this thread for bad furry gay porn, I came here because of the topic
I could close my eyes in real life too but it would still be annoying, not to mention not all of us have decreased vision, most of us can see what is going on in thumbnails and the times you can't you get it pretty much shoved in your face.
all these Fedora tippers
Atheism is alright. But you fuckers are projecting mother fuckers.
Male atheists are the equivalent to the Internet as female feminazis and vegans.
I don't see how people don't realize that.
If you're an atheist, well and good. You don't have to explain why every fucking thing you do and why it has a correlation with you being an atheist.
Also, atheists believe in evolution. There's only theories and no laws of evolution. Never will be. Book m it.
@Soft_member
stop posting crap and stop stealing images from the internet. if you fap to this shit, you're even worse. you're probably a filthy pedo too
@Gigastrength
values and beliefs are not the same thing
agnostics reserve judgment until they have all the facts
what caused the big bang?
w-why cant spirituality and science live together in peace?
After all there will always be hardware and software , mind and body .
When will humanity mature ?
@SniperWish
I did not enter this thread for bad furry gay porn
You're on Sheeky Forums, dude. Yes you did.
@eGremlin
and you're into fag shit too. you a faggot, not like an op faggot, but you suck dicks too, right? you filthy pedo piece of shit
@JunkTop
i don't wear a fedora, so stop assuming
what's wrong with liking ponies though?
@SniperWish
if you can't deal with spam you shouldn't be on Sheeky Forums lol
how new are you?
I was with you until
There's only theories and no laws of evolution.
then, I realized you're an idiot.
@RavySnake
you picked one of my three examples of brilliant Christians
I know these three personally and they'd shit on your intelligence. There's nothing systemic about it.
They didn't go to college because of God
They didn't get elected because of God
They didn't make rocket fuel because of God
If they did. God would be real. Since he's not in my opinion it obviously means they're intelligent despite their religious beliefs. WOW so hard to figure out.
@King_Martha
im an oldfag i assure you. now please stop. this isn't your thread. god where is spiderman when you need him?
@SomethingNew
You can hold any belief/non-belief without having a rational reason for it, so no. But it would be the other way around regardless, dumbshit.
@Burnblaze
you are anonymous, I am anonymous
we're all anonymous
now shut your faggot mouth
@Soft_member
you choose what you believe
If you don't believe in one or more dieties you are an atheist. End of story. The "Big Bang" is irrelivent.
@JunkTop
Not an argument
@WebTool
there are other common shared categories you could pick that would make just as little sense
internet user
human
@farquit
They didn't make rocket fuel because of God
But did they melt steel beams because of God?
911 hijackers were atheists the whole time
illuminati confirmed
@massdebater
Don't you realize crying about the spam makes them spam harder? Jesus christ kid, how long have you been on the internet? It really is Saturday isn't it.
@PurpleCharger
I don't see why everyone sees Christians are retards that believe in creation. Catholics SPECIFICALLY say that the Bible is symbolic and support theories like evolution. I believe that something had to make the big bang, what whatever that is, is God, not the other way around. I don't know why, I don't think being gay is a sin, I don't know if Jesus fucking turned water into wine, but I do believe that something powerful had to have made the universe to begin with. Does that thing love us unconditionally? Maybe. Did it's incarnation die for our sins? Maybe. But I wouldn't completely rule out the idea of some power or force that began the universe THROUGH the big bang, and call people unintelligent for thinking that. It's not so much the belief in God, but HOW that belief is portrayed that makes theists get so much hate, I think.
@Sharpcharm
I'm an agnostic too. Theism and atheism for a lot of people is more about belief as an emotion than knowledge. Not for fundamentalist Christians or ISIS or charismatic churches, but for the regular people who were raised theist, a lot of that has more to do with internal peace than how they make decisions. Theistic and atheistic religions usually don't come with systems of ethics beyond orienting your actions with your church and/or polity; they usually conform to whatever is locally popular.
Atheism isn't really about being strictly logical. It's more that some people actually derive comfort from a belief that there is no God or Creator. When it comes to questions that we have no answers to, the agnostics choose not to let the question distract them. For some people, these thoughts cause them so much stress that it makes more logical sense to create an answer so they can get along with their lives, than to dwell in the purist rationalism of vulgar agnosticism.
@Soft_member
By values I meant honesty/vitue/pursuit of knoledge/whatever. I guess you could call not wanting to hurt anyone's feelings or look silly values. If your an agnostic pussy.
@RavySnake
whats wrong with being a colossal 80 foot tall over faggot
everything
@TreeEater
you don't seem to understand the difference between disbelieving and not having an opinion one way or the other, kick and scream all you want, its not going to make an agnostic an atheist simply because you cry about it and your aspergers won't let it go
@SniperWish
the only difference is that they take the time to refer to a comment in their next post, if ignoring it would have helped they would be gone years ago
@askme
Sheeky Forums
anonymous
that's all that matters when you're on Sheeky Forums because the spam ain't gonna stop
ever
@hairygrape
ILL CUT IT OFF AND MAKE YOU CHOKE ON IT AND YOUR BLOOD AFTER I SLSH YOUR THROAT YOU STEAMING SHIT PILE
@Fried_Sushi
not having an opinion one way or the other
This is just a fancy way of saying you don't believe in gods. You're an atheist. You're an agnostic atheist. Most atheists fit into this category. Get over it.
@Fried_Sushi
typing on the internet = kicking and screaming
Soo, your purpousefully ignorant, not at all interested in the question and have no gut feeling on the matter? Then you're still an atheist because you don't actively believe in a god. I know it makes you a mean fedora meme, but it's the objective truth.
@SniperGod
why do you think that me offending someone is an attempt at stopping the spam?
You can sometimes tell from the replies that you got to them, that is the only goal, that once in a while you make one of them think less of themselves
@LuckyDusty
its an interesting topic for conversation, the only person that seems to be getting worked up is the Lucy van Pelt poster because people have different opinions than him lol
@Skullbone
This is why I dislike Christians. The condescending "I hate you but I'm gonna pray for you" bullshit.
@farquit
fucking this
I grew up in czech republic and here atheism is completely normal, but religious people are sometimes viewed as freaks and retards (especially if they do something only for religious reasons)
@Methnerd
Who said Im religious u fucking retard? "doing god's work" is just expression meaning I thank him for spaming this cancer thread with cancer pictures
@Boy_vs_Girl
you are talking as if being uncertain about something suddenly got removed from reality.
if this was pizza toppings, would you go around saying shit like "saying you don't know if you will like pineapple on pizza is just a fancy way of saying you don't like vegetables, you are anti vegetable"
the main reason people dislike the fedora type atheism is because it is so righteous to the point they decide for you what you intended.
just don't do that.
@idontknow
purposefully ignorant? No. I want to know what caused the big bang just as much as anyone, but until we find out definitively, I will reserve my judgment on whether there is or isn't a higher power. At that point i'll happily jump on the atheist bandwagon. Spontaneous generation of matter and energy from nothing my friend, that is the dilemma here.
@Methnerd
uuh, this does not match the reality I have experienced?
They never say they hate you
@SomethingNew
No. Being more intelligent makes you more likely to be non-religious. Simply subscribing to one ideology or another doesn't affect your intelligence..
I am christian and believe in evolution. And actually I am one of the top students of my promotion at university and I'll start next year working at an investment bank in London.
I am not "less inteligent", it's just something cultural and from the family that grew up with me. When was a teenager I hated religion, but now year after year I like it more, specially due to the values it tries to teach us.
@SomethingNew
Being an atheist doesn't make you more intelligent. But intelligent people tend to end up in this trash bin, due to their rejection of the emotional parts of life where they have been dissatisfied too many times to believe in a higher power, just because they are blind to see what higher purpose everything they've experienced had.
@PackManBrainlure
If you tell the Guy at the pizza place you don't know if you want pinapple or not he won't put pinapple on it. Not knowing if you want something is different from wanting it
@Boy_vs_Girl
If you're not purpousfully ignorant then you should at least know the definitions of what you're talking about. My atheist friend
@PackManBrainlure
The pineapple is just another topping. Cheese is the default. Atheism is cheese pizza. You can be indifferent to toppings or dislike them. It doesn't matter. But in the end of the day you're eating a cheese pizza and neither of us believe in gods so we're atheists.
Most people are seeing this wrong, being an atheist gives you some IQ points. This does NOT mean intelligent people are to become atheist instantly or at some point.
How do they reproduce when they all have dicks?
You seek knowledge and answered to mysterys that believers relate to god without any exploration
So ya more intellegant
@Sir_Gallonhead
They don't say it explicitly, but they do believe in a good/evil dichotomy and by praying for you for whatever reason, they are placing you into the evil category.
It's mostly the attitude that they have control over your life via their prayers that bothers me.
you need my help
even though you don't have a problem
i'll do nothing practical to help you
and feel good about it
@SomethingNew
Does being an obsessive shitposter who can't change the subject mean you're stupid?
@Firespawn
I AM ignorant, but not purposefully.
If the answers were in reach, I would go out and find them, but the answers to the questions I have about the creation of the universe are out of my hands. I have more important things to do with my life than get a degree in theoretical physics, like make car payments and pay rent.
@PackManBrainlure
If somebody wants him in the thread, then how can he be unwanted? We are all unwanted until somebody wants us. It is the default position, much like atheism.
@Flameblow
actually, it puts you at genious levels of IQ
@Deadlyinx
you need a degree in theoretical physics to look up atheism in a dictionary
all i've seen in this thread is being an atheist makes you an asshole and being an agnostic makes you intelligent
@Firespawn
you changed the example and added extra information that makes the situation one that needs a definite choice to be made for it to end.
in reality it would go like this
"sir, did you want pineapple or not?"
I have not decided yet
"can you call back when you are ready to order?"
no, let me decide!
etc
@5mileys
you and some friends are discussing pizza toppings
"I'm not sure if I like pineapple"
you: well then you hate vegetables!
you ignore the fact they never ordered any pizza because they were undecided
@Deadlyinx
it is not based on hate though, it is easy to attack religion, when you make shit up, lie or twist, you hurt your own cause because it is easy to point out your bullshit.
@VisualMaster
addmittedly I did kinda butcher that one. But until you come up with a decision, you don't actively want the pinapple on your pizza. You're apinnaple so to speak. If you decide you don't want it you're anti pinnaple, if you do want it you're pinapple.
I hope that was clearer
Well, what kind of god would you like to have, hm?
For me, god is love.
For me, god is the entity that made the universe.
For me my god is in my pants ...
etc.
Read Feuerbach, you fucking nitwits. These are your SUBJECTIVE definitions of an higher entity, and therefore completely void.
There is ignorance about the universe, yes. But we don't have to go as far as calling everything we don't know "God". That makes NO. FUCKING. SENSE.
@eGremlin
what else are you gonna do, troll a YLYL thread?
oh those are every fucking day too
@TalkBomber
my point is that if you are undecided you actually have to wait for the person to make up their mind, if you jump in prematurely and make a choice for them you are a huge asshole and nothing more, they are still undecided, but in your head you got one more on your side, that is the only justification I can find.
and that is why this approach, and I only see fedora atheist push this, is retarded